ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, cut the BS, if you don't think HTWW has aspired to shill for rich corporate interests and eventually landed a job doing just that, then say so and why.

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, AGAIN cut the BS, if you don't think HTWW has aspired to shill for rich corporate interests and eventually landed a job doing just that, then say so and why.

cristoballs mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - you're the one making the assertion he's a shill. why is my responsibility to prove that he isn't. see, just like a religious zealot. you make a baseless assertion, and then expect the people who don't see it your way to provide the proof that you're wrong.

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, "i didn't say everyone was blocked for the same reason", no you rationalized that some tiny minority might have been blocked unfairly or by accident or something, but from what I've seen in comments and videos, most were blocked for the same reasons as I was for noting factual discrepancies. "don't care to listen to reason" use facts then "you were blocked. get over it. It's not the end of the world" never cried over it, nor did I beg HTWW for a year to be unblocked, YOU DID.

cristoballs mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - now who's speaking for others. i never begged for anything. i addressed htww in a respectful manner and he unblocked me. simple as that. you should try it sometime.

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, "make a baseless assertion" before HTWW Lee spouted corporate rights on his advocate1234 channel, lower corporate taxes, unlimited political corporate spending, etc. All in line with big corporate interests funding CEI, who's backed tobacco, fossil fuel industry, plastic BPRs, etc. Then again you're the guy claiming others don't listen to reason, and yet can't back up his own opinions. "to provide the proof" if you're going to bitch against something, then yes you'll need facts

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, "now who's speaking for others", AGAIN "from what I've seen in comments and videos" is relating not rationalizing excuses as you've done. Search howtheworldworks censor, and review the many dozens of videos for yourself. "I never begged", well it took a year didn't it. "I addressed htww in a respectful manner", AGAIN I said "HTWW you said "..." and your link says "..." the exact opposite, you just mislead all your viewers" respectful facts greated with censorship.

cristoballs mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - i've said my piece. i think you're being a baby. i'm not going to continue with this because you don't care to listen and are looking for fault in what i say rather than concede that i might have a point. i have better things to do with my time than argue with you about something so petty. i've given you more time than you deserve. so go ahead and keep commenting. i really don't care. later.

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, your post less the fluff "you're being a baby...you don't care to listen...looking for fault...rather than concede...so petty...more time than you deserve", your typical empty opinionated nonsense AGAIN you've obviously have come full circle to admire HTWW enough to continually stand up for him and make all manner of explanations, excuses and rationalizations. If you haven't been BSing, then you'd have no issue making a video spouting off all your new found praise for HTWW.

cristoballs mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - apparently you missed the point of my last comment. i'll make it simple. i'm done with this whole discussion. i'm not going to make a video explaining myself. i've already made videos explaining why i'm pro-capitalism and why i respect htww's opinion on economics. i don't agree with him on everything, but i don't hate him either. so there. i'm done.

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 11, 2010 - @cristoballs, "missed the point...i'm done" then DON'T reply "not going to make a video [praising HTWW]" of course not you'd be a laughing stock "i've already made videos...i respect htww's opinion on economics" so where's the video links? Meanwhile watch 5NJa9Cz9XSY and X7ktllNiK2o etc etc. Your own FACTUAL videos don't back your quote, and are in stark contrast to your many empty insults and opinions in this blog. Why you begged HTWW to shatter your cristoballs is beyond me. Good luck

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 12, 2010 - @cristoballs, as you know I stumbled on your title change a few days ago, and just now reading the description. "people are still talking about this video" so? ANY video gets residual if not a steady state of traffic for as long as it's posted. Don't like it? Then take the video down. "no evidence that that any of the accounts used in this video are owned by lee", fact is 1 in 6 accounts looked like socks, Lee's sub growth flatlined for 2 weeks (deleting subs?), then he hide his sub list.

ZangaroZen mowi:

Sep 12, 2010 - @Cristoballs, "pure speculation" no, you presented facts and offered the best logic explanation. A competent lawyer type, which Lee obviously is not, would have said, "Not my accounts. I can't control who subscribes, but would appreciate any socks to please unsubscribe as I don't need your support". End of story. Instead Lee threatened "further action", hid his sub list and called on his 12500 subs to make support videos (only 1 complied) "dwelling...on someone they hate" or love, your point?

ManOfDeath567 mowi:

Oct 15, 2010 - This is BS. If HTWW actually had sock accounts, he would have to make hundreds to actually make a difference in his subscriber population. There is no proof of sock accounts.

cristoballs mowi:

Oct 16, 2010 - i believe that was the point of annotations i added.

cristoballs mowi:

Nov 16, 2010 - did you even bother to read the big red annotations i added to the video or the video info?

silikon2 mowi:

Mar 21, 2011 - I just happened to have stumbled upon this feud or whatever you call it. If you don't want people commenting on it, why don't you delete it? The evidence in the video is that they are not sock accounts. Look at the wide range of subscription dates and # of videos watched, which Lee could not easily fake. It's not impossible, but it would be insanely complicated to do so, and would have required multi-year planning. Maybe he has a few socks, I have no idea.

cristoballs mowi:

Mar 21, 2011 - "If you don't want people commenting on it, why don't you delete it?" this video got a lot of traction, in large part because it was featured on tf00t's channel. there are a few mirrors of this video on youtube. so i figured it's best to leave the original up, being that i was the person that started the whole thing with the sock account accusations. so if anyone wants to continue making the claim, they can be directed to this video. make sense?

silikon2 mowi:

Mar 22, 2011 - Well, it just seemed obnoxious in your captions to imply that anyone that might have an issue with it was hung up on something. With respect, I would definitely leave the video up for the reasons you stated, but drop those captions and let people decide for themselves on the merits. I don't know if a lot of people are hung up on it, but it is very off-putting to newer viewers of this material to make that claim.

astrolifter mowi:

Mar 30, 2011 - UGH!! GET THAT NIGGER MUSIC OFF THERE!!!!!!!!!!!

cake1834 mowi:

Apr 16, 2011 - the video is screwed up on my computer i think or just screwed up. it is just music no words...

SBRslacker00 mowi:

May 20, 2011 - This video is famous. Funny stuff. We all know Doren is a think tank shill, just like everyone else in the media. Why should this surprise or upset anyone?

MyDormantSoul mowi:

Jul 2, 2011 - good for you, your own video made you look like a moron and to defend yourself from criticism you tell people they have no life. You're an idiot. You're an Idiot. You're an idiot.

Pellegrino80 mowi:

Jul 23, 2011 - LOL! He spent the time to type "Thanks for Subscribing" on every single sock-puppet accounts that he has created!

classicallady mowi:

Jul 23, 2011 - Doreen Summers Eve.